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It's Complicated: Untangling the Relationship With Our Phones

digital detox podcast

Tanya’s digital detox podcast ‘It’s Complicated: Untangling the Relationship With Our Phones‘ launched in February 2019 and was selected by iTunes for its New & Noteworthy podcast feature in its first few weeks of launch.

In each series she discusses how being over-connected to your smartphone can affect everything from your physical health, your mental health, your work and your sex life.

Over the course of six series to date, Tanya chats to an inspiring group of people about their complicated relationship with their phones. People who spend most of their working lives online such as ‘Instapoet’ and illustrator Nikita Gill, and YouTuber and sex educator Hannah Witton; People who juggle a high profile with a huge online following such as Jamie Laing and James McVey; people work largely in the offline world such as celebrity photographer Dan Kennedy and adventurer Alastair Humphreys; and those who have made a study of our smartphone habits such as addiction specialist and author Johann Hari and Professor Cal Newport.

Series Two of the digital detox podcast launched on 9th July 2019. Series Three launched 2nd March 2020. Series Four launched 28th June 2020. Series Five launched 19th October 2020. Series Six launched 15th February 2021.

The goal with these conversations is to untangle what a healthy relationship with your phone looks like and to empower you with tips and ideas to leave you feeling healthier, happier and with hours more time in your day.

S6 Ep Three: Tim Harford economist, broadcaster and author Tim joins Tanya to show us how to make the world add up by reading numbers more clearly, learning how to calm down, check our biases, and identify those who are weaponising statistics on social media and those who are using them to help us make sense of what’s going on in the world.

S6 Ep Two: Martha Lane Fox the pioneering digital entrepreneur and current Chair of the House of Lords Covid Committee, joins Tanya to talk about her trail-blazing career in digital over the past quarter of a century and what needs to happen to eliminate the UK’s digital divide.

S6 Ep One: Andrew Cotters Sports broadcaster Andrew joins Tanya to launch S6 of the podcast, chatting about how he became Insta-famous in lockdown with his videos of his labradors Olive and Mabel (currently viewed over 80 million times online) and his love-hate relationship with the digital world.

S5 Ep Seven: John Barnes Liverpool and England footballing legend John Barnes, is the S5 finale guest, talking about why we need more open and honest conversations about racism, discrimination on and off the pitch, and how young millionaire footballers with huge social followings could be using their platforms more to effect change in their communities.

S5 Ep Six Money and Tech with Anne Boden  – a chat with the Founder and CEO of digital-only bank Starling, Anne Boden, on how tech is helping us make the management of our money much less complicated. And how financial inequality extends far beyond the gender pay gap.

S5 Ep Five Finn Beales on Nature as the Antidote  – photographer Finn chats in this episode about his career in photographer, his relationship with social media, and how his strong connection with the natural world helps him avoid the addictive pitfalls of the digital one.

S5 Ep Four Emily Cummin on Grief and Loss  – The CEO and co-Founder of Untangle, the social network for mourners, joins us to talk about why we don’t like talking about our death, but why it’s so important that we do. And she discusses the digital legacies we will all leave behind and how to make our wishes about those clear, to make life easier for those who love us.

S5 Ep Three Laura Bates on Misogyny  – The second of two episodes around the US Elections themed around speech online. In this episode, author Laura Bates joins Tanya to talk about the underground online communities focused on extreme misogyny and their devastating offline impact.

S5 Ep Two Toby Young on Cancel Culture  – For the US Elections, two episodes themed around debate, disagreements and free speech online. In this episode, author and journalist Toby Young talks to Tanya about his personal experience of being ‘cancelled’ online in 2018 and why he set-up the Free Speech Union to help others who find themselves in a similar position.

S5 Ep One Amy Hart on Digital Detox  – Series Five launches with an episode with Love Island’s Amy Hart and YouTuber Mimi Missfit chatting about the week-long digital detox they took seven teenagers on, just before the pandemic hit. Listen to them talk about the impact on the teens’ mental health and the long-lasting changes they all made to their lives as a result. And find out how Amy deals with attention from trolls online.

S4 Ep Ten Racism Online with Charlie Brinkhurst-Cuff  – does social media create and perpetuate an environment which breeds racism? Or is the digital world just reflecting back the state of the offline world? Series Four ends today with a chat with gal-dem’s head of editorial Charlie Brinkhust-Cuff, on racism, algorithmic bias, and what she actually really loves about the digital world.

S4 Ep Nine Women and Tech with Professor Sue Black OBE  – why is the relationship between women and technology so much more complicated than that of their male counterparts? Why have women’s historic contributions so often been hidden from history? An inspiring and uplifting chat with Prof Sue Black who’s made her life’s mission to introduce more women to the life-changing benefits of tech.

S4 Ep Eight Sleep and Screens with Dr Guy Leschziner  – what’s the real relationship between screens and sleep? How can we use tech to guarantee good slumber and prevent nocturnal waking? Are some of the things we think we already know about tech and sleep simply not true? As sleep disorders rise across all age groups, and screen time soars, this episode is not to be missed.

S4 Ep Seven Clicktivism with Athena Kugblenu  – If you care about a particular cause, is clicktivism the way to be the best activist? Is posting, tweeting and rallying around hashtags how we now effect change? Or do we need to leave the online space to make things happen in the real world? Stand-up comedian, writer and broadcaster Athena Kugblenu joins Tanya to chat about clicktivism, comedy and celebrity culture.

S4 Ep Six Making Better Connections with Prof Juliana Schroeder  – If you’ve ever wondered how you could be using email, messaging, video chat and social media to communicate better, this episode is for you. Professor Schroeder from the University of California Berkeley, joins us to share her fascinating research on how technology is changing the way we communicate, and how we can use it to build better relationships.

S4 Ep Five Jack Edwards and Vee Kativhu on The StudyTube Project  – YouTubers Jack and Vee join Tanya to chat about their StudyTube Project which they launched to provide free daily educational resources to their hundreds of thousands of followers stuck at home in the pandemic.

S4 Ep Four Emily Bell on Fake News  – How can we wade through the swamp of fake news online and get to the truth? And what can we do to preserve professional reporting organisations, when Big Tech is making their existence harder every day? Director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism, Professor Emily Bell, joins us to chat about all this and more.

S4 Ep Three Nick Cave and The Bad Memes  – Dave Tarnowski, founder of the hugely popular memes account, chats about memes and mental health and how he’s become an informal internet therapist for his following.

S4 Ep Two Grace Beverley  – The Forbes 30 Under 30 fitness entrepreneur talks about running three multi million pound businesses and juggling being a CEO and managing a huge online presence.

S4 Ep One Pete Reed OBE  – Three times gold medal winning Olympic champion, rower Pete Reed, kicks off Series Four chatting to Tanya about change and resilience and how his athlete mindset is helping him rise to the biggest challenge of his career.

S3 Ep Nine James McVey  –Lead guitarist with The Vamps, James McVey, chats about his work on cyberbullying and online safety, as well as opening up about how he’s coped with managing a huge online social media presence in the 10 years since The Vamps were formed.

S3 Ep Eight Lauren Mahon  –Co-host of the ‘You, me and the Big C’ podcast, founder of Girl Vs Cancer and breast cancer survivor, Lauren Mahon, joins Tanya to talk about what her experience can teach us all right now about dealing with uncertainty, anxiety, and taking one day at a time.

S3 Ep Seven Tom Watson  – Former Deputy Leader of the Labour Party talks about how his relationship with tech has changed, from his time as an MP and Shadow Minister for Digital Culture, Media and Sport, through to his new life as an author and Chair of UK Music.

S3 Ep Six Seyi Akiwowo  – Activist and campaigner Seyi talks to Tanya about the founding of her non-profit Glitch which campaigns against online abuse, and how we can all learn to be better digital citizens.

S3 Ep Five Jamie Laing  – Tanya talks to Jamie Laing about how his relationship with social media has changed over his ten years of starring in one of Britain’s most high profile TV shows Made In Chelsea.

S3 Ep Four Creating Community with Badass Cross Stitch’s Shannon Downey  – Tanya chats with craftivist Shannon who uses art and craft to build community offline, by connecting people online through crafting projects and activism

S3 Ep Three Seek Discomfort with Yes Theory’s Thomas Brag  – Thomas chats to Tanya about the positive and inspirational digital media brand encouraging meaningful real-world connections with their YouTube challenges.

S3 Ep Two Make Love Not Porn with Cindy Gallop  – Social sex entrepreneur chats to Tanya about why she’s pro-sex, pro-porn, pro-knowing the difference.

S3 Ep One Dr Alex George Ex-Love Island contestant and A&E doctor Alex George kicks off Season Three talking about the impact of social media on mental health.

S2 Ep Nine Kristina Karlsson –This week Tanya talks to entrepreneur and businesswoman Kristina Karlsson, Founder and Creative Director of global Swedish design and stationery business kikki.k, about how she gets a better balance with tech while running her global business.

S2 Ep Eight Sextortion, Phishing and Fraud Ethical hacker Scott McGready spells out which of our phone habits are making us particularly unsafe online, and how we can all protect ourselves from fraud.

S2 Ep Seven Male Mental Health Online with The Naked Professor Ben Bidwell chats with Tanya this week about depictions of masculinity and positive male role models online.

S2 Ep Six Phone Habits and the Environment Kelsea Weber from global repair community iFixit, talks with Tanya about what we can do to counter the growing mountain of eWaste.

S2 Ep Five Vybarr Cregan-Reid  Professor Cregan-Reid joins Tanya to tell us what our smartphone and our tech habits are doing to our bodies.

S2 Ep Four Justin McLeod The CEO of no-swipe dating app Hinge joins Tanya to talk about what smartphone apps have done to dating and how his own love story inspired him to create an app designed to be deleted.

S2 Ep Three Shahroo Izadi Behavioural Change Specialist Shahroo joins Tanya to talk about how to make habit changes that last, and how to apply that method to our phone and tech habits.

S2 Ep Two Vex King and Kaushal How do you get a good screen:life balance when you have over 3 million followers between you? Tanya talks to influencer power couple Vex King and Kaushal.

Bonus: Behind the Podcast In a change to the usual series format, Tanya is interviewed by lifestyle journalist and self-confessed smartphone-addicted millennial Rachel Hosie, on the story behind Time to Log Off and the launch of the ‘It’s Complicated’ digital detox podcast.

S2 Ep One Johann Hari: New York Times bestselling author and TED speaker Johann Hari talks to Tanya about social media and sex, why we’re all looking for connection – but how we’re looking for it all in the wrong places.

S2 Trailer: The trailer for Series Two introduces the new season for ‘It’s Complicated, launching 9th July 2019.

S1 Trailer: the Series One trailer gives a flavour of the range of guests for the first podcast season and the variety of topics we will be touching upon when we talk about how to live healthily and happily with our smartphones.

S1 Nikita Gill: episode one of the podcast series features Tanya in conversation with poet, author, illustrator and designer Nikita Gill. Nikita is often referred to as a leading light in the new breed of Insta poets who have opened up poetry to a new audience online (in Nikita’s case to her over half a million Instagram followers). But the neat ‘Insta poet’ label doesn’t do her justice, she’s a polymath with a huge range of talents and with an incisive and thoughtful take on the social media world which has brought her her fame.

S1 Ben Fogle and Marina Fogle: episode two of the podcast series finds Tanya in conversation with explorer, broadcaster and UN Patron of the Wilderness Ben Fogle and his wife, parenting guru and author Marina Fogle, about the challenges of being a mindful parent and partner in our age of smartphones and 24:7 connectivity. How do we show our children and partners respect while still remaining connected? How does it complicate things when we have a cause or mission we’re championing online?

S1 Hannah Witton: episode three features Tanya in conversation with sex educator, YouTuber and author Hannah Witton talking about what our phone habits might be doing to our sex lives and intimate relationships. When 10% of all adults admit to checking their smartphones during sex, what impact is this all having on our partners?

S1 Dan Kennedy: celebrity photographer Dan has photographed anyone who’s anyone from Madonna to Kiera Knightly to Angelina Jolie and David Beckham. In this episode he talks to Tanya about how he has designed his working life to minimise the distractions from smartphones and social media and maximise his focus and productivity in our permanently distracted world.

S1 Alastair Humphreys: Adventurer and author Al Humphreys spent over 4 years cycling round the world (46,000 miles, 60 countries and 5 continents). He’s also walked across southern India, rowed across the Atlantic Ocean, run six marathons through the Sahara, completed a crossing of Iceland, participated in an expedition in the Arctic and trekked 1000 miles across the Empty Quarter desert. Here he talks to Tanya about how we all need to put our smartphones down more, get outside and reconnect with nature and its cycles for the sake of our physical and our mental health.

S1 Rhiannon Lambert: Harley Street nutritionist and author Rhiannon Lambert talks to Tanya on the digital detox podcast about how we can all maintain good physical and mental health in a world of filters and body comparisons. We chat about how mindless scrolling through our Instagram feed might be stopping us from listening to what our bodies are really telling us and how that can lead to disordered eating habits of all kinds. And as a businesswoman and the face of a growing and successful business, Rhiannon explains what boundaries she’s had to put in place around her phone to ensure she maintains a healthy work-life balance.

S1 Tim Lovejoy: TV presenter and journalist chats to Tanya about phone addiction, digital detox, and being in the public eye in a world of 24:7 feedback. Tim has had to put in place strategies to stop himself reading comments about himself while working and chats about what impact the same pressures have had on those in the worlds of sport and arts. A self-confessed phone addict, Tim has tried many ways to cut down on his scrolling and shares some of the things that work for him.

S1 Cal Newport: Cal is Professor of Computer Science at Georgetown University, the author of the Study Hacks blog and of the bestselling book Deep Work. In 2018 he began advocating ‘digital minimalism’, which is also the title of his latest book. In this last episode of the first podcast series he talks to Tanya on the digital detox podcast about how his philosophy of living better with less technology will restore a bit of balance to our lives.


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